Well.. thank you for reporting what THEY say. It wasn't clear that was their words with some dressing of your opinions. At the moment it looks they haven't got it right. Improve the UI? Yes. Improve the machine possibilities? Nope. That's wrong. I'll correct you on the Eventide "biz model"... yes you are completely wrong. Eventide has always been a strong and unique forge of ideas materialized into amazing stuff in their products. Any and every new machine had a wave of new things added to what had been done before. People using these processors for decades do expect this kind of consistent innovation in these science toys... not just using a ****ing iPhone do to the same things as before. The H8000 introduced a TON of new things to the previous line of products: 5.1 effects, stereo to 5.1 effects, MIDI Virtual Racks, Multiple Machines managed as MVRacks, the new H8000 reverbs, Custom Scales pitch shifter with graphical interface (music staff) and a lot of other things, dispersed thru existing banks. There was never a repackage based product. Most pre_existing algorithms have always been improved/enlarged when more power and new modules have been available, from the 4000 to the 7000/Orville platform and over the H8000. This has always been a main concept in advancing. And the same is thru for Eclipse. Advancing thru different OS versions, including new algorithms not available on the H8000. Vintage Delays was created on Eclipse and made it sell a LOT... so they had to port it over the pedals. The repackaging is for the pedals! Oh yes... there little development and a ton of cannibalizing from the good rack treasure. Once in a while a "new" effect... mostly existing stuff with a different name. The amount of energy and work about creating new modules and new algorithms with them was just amazing back in the days. You have no idea how many cool things were made... and worked... and never saw the light. All Eventide advertising has always based on keeping the heritage in showing the new things possible on a new product, from the 3000 to the 4000, to the 7000 to Orville, on to the H7600/H8000. When the DSP4000 was released it was based on about 90 modules (Vsig). By the time the platform reached the H8000 status... those modules got to 200, introducing modules you could only dream before, like Reverb A which could finally use any number of delay lines, from 4 to 32 (in group od 4) and addres up to 32,5 secs of delay memory to create density, or all delays and shifters modules which could finally address from 10 to 30+ seconds of delay memory instead of 640 ms which forced you to string a ton of them and add math modules to do a stupid knob to control them all... wasting tons of DSP rsources and Vsig lines (Vsig has a limitation to the max number of modules you use in an algorithm... it's not endless), or double precision filters (that's a LOT of power being taken and the H9000 won't be able to use them as it should), or the fantastic Harmonix module...PitchTime which does independent Time and Pitch compression/expansion, cool comprtessors to do multiband compression for mastering work, the Distortion Preamp for any kind of audio mangling, based off multiple user selectable curves, the retriggerable oscillators and the H3000 lfo, the dozens of new interface modules to create a control no other unit offers to the user.... dozens of modules, progress, improvement, BIG ONE... with plenty of DSP engineers doing actual code work. All a DSP engineer HAS to do... IS creating modules. That's THEIR job! So now we have a SHITLOAD of power... running the same old code and modules and the existing presets? Why? Because they concentrate on the UI? Gimme a ****ing break, dude. 13 years have passed doin' what? Counting beans and peanuts! I really hope FOR YOU that they have been missing the critical info on their press releases so far and the good stuff is in there or you have no idea how sorry you'll be. As it is now... it doesn't look like a substantial change/improvement over past products for a creative head like it's always been. If you move on to a 7 strings guitar with divided pickup... you'll be stuck as you wouldn't believe today.