Z28 clean sounds

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  1. adamg

    adamg Member

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    Hi,

    Would really like to hear comments on the Z28's clean sounds and how it compares to similiar amps. I always hear about how it rocks, but never about it's suitablity for jazz, country, and clean pop.

    I would also like opinions on the Z28 low volume (bedroom volume) cleans. I live in an apartment and quiet playing is a fact of life. Some amps seem to sound great (though different) at low volumes (like a 3x10 Victoria Bandmaster I once tried). Other amps seem to sound hard and constipated when the volume goes too low.

    I want to try it for myself, just have not had the chance yet.

    Thanks in advance...

    Adam
     
  2. smilefan

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    Of all Z amps the Z28 has my favorite cleans. Very Fendery
    vibe of course, which is a good thing in my book. In fact,
    its the only Z which I thought the cleans were as good as the
    grind. A Z28 thru a low watt 12" or 10" with some of your
    favorite dirty things on the floor would make a great home
    practice rig. I say get an outboard reverb tank too!
    Apartment tone that rules! :dude :dude :dude :dude
     
  3. big mike

    big mike Moderator - EL34 Emeritas Staff Member

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    Gotta agree there. Run both tones to about 9 oclock. (These almost act like gainstages on the Z28) and use an inefficent speaker, (I love it through a Greenback) with a nice OD pedal and you're golden.
     
  4. adamg

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    Thanks for the input so far.

    I'm actually interested in low volumes cleans (not using a pedal).

    I'm hoping for full bodied cleans that are pleasing to the ear at BEDROOM volumes. Any comments on practice volume CLEANS?

    I tried a Toneking once that had awseome clean sounds but you need to crank it up. When the Toneking was played low the cleans sounds became hard sounding and lost all body.

    BTW, Dr. Z is running a "Dr. Z Day" with a one day 10% off sale:

    http://drzamplifiers.proboards41.com/index.cgi?board=news&action=display&thread=1128940819


    Thanks,


    Adam
     
  5. big mike

    big mike Moderator - EL34 Emeritas Staff Member

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    Z28 will get you there. No problems.
     
  6. smilefan

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    Ditto to Big Mike. Z28 low vol cleans are
    gorgeous. Give my a good Strat and a pot of
    coffee, and I'll play all day thru a Z28 on '2'.
     
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    Big brassy fendery cleans at modest volumes. Z28 always has a lot of punch though, so you'll have to pick cleanly if you don't want to wake the baby. Try a vintage Jensen P15N, which is a nice inefficient clean speaker.
     
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    Nice low volume cleans, but midrangy and you will probably want an outboard verb unit. I love my 28 when I can crank it, but given the choice at bedroom volume clean I prefer my Deluxe Reverb.
     
  9. adamg

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    I am bumping this thread to see if anyone has more to add (I originally posted over this past weekend).

    Anyone using the z28 for Jazz, Country?

    Thanks,

    Adam
     
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    I would even suggest getting an attenuator like a THD Hotplate so you can turn the volume up a bit more--still clean, but working a bit more. Lowish volume levels and tone levels plus THD Hotplate at -8db = sweet sounding apartment rig.

    Jazz, definitely. Some country guys use the Z28 too, I believe.

    taco
     
  11. big mike

    big mike Moderator - EL34 Emeritas Staff Member

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    Oh yeah. Gimme my Tele and the Z28 rig, and I'm in Chicken picken heaven!
     
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    I can't speak for all the Z stuff, especially the Z-28, but my MAZ SR has tons of clean head room.

    Just added the Z-Break, now I have that really sweet "Custard Pie - Zep" tone by pumping the pre-gain.

    When I want the head room back, I just tweek the Z-Brake back down again. It's the best of every world under the sun!

    Love my Z!
     
  13. adamg

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    Can anyone compare the Z28 clean sounds to the Car Rambler? I have played the Rambler and liked it. I want to try a Z28 soon, just have not had the chance yet.

    Thanks,

    Adam
     
  14. Joe Perry

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    Which Tone King was it? I have the new Meteor II 2x12. It gets great cleans at low volumes. Very warm & BF like. Excellant reverb & trem. It can be run at 20 or 40 watts. I love mine. Keep in mind that the new TK's are about twice the cost of the Z28.

    Joe
     

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