Zeppelin Trivia

rjbee · Feb 8, 2014

Been reading "Light & Shade, Conversations with Jimmy Page" by Brad Tolinski. Interesting comment by Page stating that the first album was done totally with a Vox Super Beatle, in addition to what we all know is a Tele, wah wah and boost pedal. Not sure if anyone really cares but for those who do, interesting, no?

Jp2558 · Feb 8, 2014

If true, a lot of gear manufacturers are gonna sigh...

Ferg Deluxe · Feb 8, 2014

Totally! Those Voxes are all over early Zep records. There a number of tones that I grew up listening to that I thought were Marshalls. I was stunned when I learned they weren't. Kinda had to unlearn what I thought a Marshall sounded like! :-D

rslowr · Feb 8, 2014

rjbee said:
Been reading "Light & Shade, Conversations with Jimmy Page" by Brad Tolinski. Interesting comment by Page stating that the first album was done totally with a Vox Super Beatle, in addition to what we all know is a Tele, wah wah and boost pedal. Not sure if anyone really cares but for those who do, interesting, no?

Yeah, I was impressed enough to dig out the album and have a listen. Also JP financed the album himself and then took it to Atlantic. He wanted to be on a classy label, not like Cream on Atco. Great book.

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Lumpy's Tone Shop · Feb 9, 2014

rjbee said:
Been reading "Light & Shade, Conversations with Jimmy Page" by Brad Tolinski. Interesting comment by Page stating that the first album was done totally with a Vox Super Beatle, in addition to what we all know is a Tele, wah wah and boost pedal. Not sure if anyone really cares but for those who do, interesting, no?

Page has been mistaken on his gear before and he is in this case as well. The first album was recorded with a Supro which he has mentioned using as early as '69 in interviews. Most of the second album was recorded with a Vox, but a UL4120, not a Super Beatle, which Page didn't have at the time. Studio pics from LZII sessions clearly show the UL4120. He's confused the two amps in the past.

Flogger59 · Feb 9, 2014

Yeah, II was a 4120, among other things.

eflatminor · Feb 9, 2014

I recall reading that Page's first use of a Marshall amp was the solo on "Heartbreaker" on their 2nd album.

Peppy · Aug 22, 2014

Flogger59 said:

What a simple drum set.

Telefunky · Aug 23, 2014

Peppy said:
What a simple drum set.

Forget the simplicity of the set, look at how it's MIC'd!!! 2 mics and yer done. Best drum sound ever.

brickthicket · Aug 23, 2014

The problem is that recording not only involves guitars, pedals, amps etc., but also mics, mic placement, room ambiance, preamps, EQ etc.

In the end, so much goes into recording a certain album, why do we care so much about one specific aspect.

Cal Webway · Aug 23, 2014

Time for Vox to do exact repro of the Super Beatle
(SS I assume??)

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andrekp · Aug 23, 2014

Lumpy's Tone Shop said:
Page has been mistaken on his gear before and he is in this case as well. The first album was recorded with a Supro which he has mentioned using as early as '69 in interviews. Most of the second album was recorded with a Vox, but a UL4120, not a Super Beatle, which Page didn't have at the time. Studio pics from LZII sessions clearly show the UL4120. He's confused the two amps in the past.

Don't be silly! Jimmy Page is never wrong about ANYTHING. Just ask TGP! If we have MISUNDERSTOOD what he said, and think it inconsistent, it's just because we aren't as great a Guitar God as Page and have no business trying to interpret his utterances. Why are you a hater? Do YOU have any videos on YouTube playing Kashmir better than Page does? Thought not... So you REALLY don't have anything to add to this discussion about amplifiers.

fjblair · Aug 23, 2014

Flogger59 said:
Yeah, II was a 4120, among other things.

Where is the Vox, I see a Marshall and some bass gear?

edit: I guess that is not bass gear.

lhallam · Aug 23, 2014

andrekp said:
Don't be silly! Jimmy Page is never wrong about ANYTHING. Just ask TGP! If we have MISUNDERSTOOD what he said, and think it inconsistent, it's just because we aren't as great a Guitar God as Page and have no business trying to interpret his utterances. Why are you a hater? Do YOU have any videos on YouTube playing Kashmir better than Page does? Thought not... So you REALLY don't have anything to add to this discussion about amplifiers.

Can't get a read on where this is coming from. Sarcasm? Humor? Criticism?

It's been reported for many years that Jimmy used a supro on the first release. It's possible he used other amps as well but we've all been led (pun intended) to believe the majority of Zep I is his Yardbirds tele and a supro.

I'm pretty sure Joe Walsh either gave or sold Jimmy his LP after LZ I.

duckbunny · Aug 23, 2014

fjblair said:
Where is the Vox, I see a Marshall and some bass gear?

edit: I guess that is not bass gear.

I also see the Transonic cab and a LP, so one must assume that this is one of the LZII sessions that they managed to sandwich between tours. If the album was recorded between January and August 1969, and JP got his #1 from Walsh in April of that year, we can assume that the pic was taken between April and August of '69. no?

-db

Lumpy's Tone Shop · Aug 23, 2014

duckbunny said:
I also see the Transonic cab and a LP, so one must assume that this is one of the LZII sessions that they managed to sandwich between tours. If the album was recorded between January and August 1969, and JP got his #1 from Walsh in April of that year, we can assume that the pic was taken between April and August of '69. no?

-db

June '69 - Olympic Studios

Liam & Me · Aug 23, 2014

Telefunky said:
Forget the simplicity of the set, look at how it's MIC'd!!! 2 mics and yer done. Best drum sound ever.

that was Glyn Johns' style, apparently.

Something Don Henley was not going to be too happy with, a few years later.

Coldacre · Aug 23, 2014

andrekp said:
Don't be silly! Jimmy Page is never wrong about ANYTHING. Just ask TGP! If we have MISUNDERSTOOD what he said, and think it inconsistent, it's just because we aren't as great a Guitar God as Page and have no business trying to interpret his utterances. Why are you a hater? Do YOU have any videos on YouTube playing Kashmir better than Page does? Thought not... So you REALLY don't have anything to add to this discussion about amplifiers.

gotta be sarcasm. right?

DWB1960 · Aug 23, 2014

Liam & Me said:
that was Glyn Johns' style, apparently.

Glyn wasn't involved with Zep when that photo was taken. Bonham and Jimmy were the ones that wanted the fewest mics. They wanted to capture the ambiance of the room.

MKB · Aug 23, 2014

Flogger59 said:
Yeah, II was a 4120, among other things.

Wish they would have spared a few bucks and bought Jim a guitar stand. Seeing that LP on that stool just makes me cringe.

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