Zion guitars anyone?

[chimaera1982]

Am interested in getting a Zion model 50 off the bay, anyone has any experience with this particalar zion model or any zions in general? Any info would be appreciated. How does it compares with the other boutique builders like suhr, melancon, andersons?

Cheers

 

[trisonic]

Depends on how old they are.
I have an early Zion that was built by Ken Hoover himself but I'm not sure if he has any connection with the company for the past few years - that's not to say that the news ones are bad, though. Like anything people prefer the ones built by the originator.
Ken had a good connection with Joe Barden at the time and mine has his "Standard" pick ups which I like over the "Deluxe" versions.

Dunno whether there is a collecters market for Zion's though.....

Best, Pete.

 

[Riscchip]

The one I had was as well made as any other boutique strat I've owned (Anderson, Lentz, Melancon, Fender CS, etc.):

 

[Gadowguitars]

Zion puts out a great product..they build everything in house these days. The ones that were built in the "Ken Hoover" were not built by him...they were built from parts subbed out from other companies.

 

[trisonic]

Originally posted by Gadowguitars
Zion puts out a great product..they build everything in house these days. The ones that were built in the "Ken Hoover" were not built by him...they were built from parts subbed out from other companies.

Maybe, but when he was based in downtown Greensboro? I watched him make mine.

Best, Pete.

 

[TAVD]

I bought a very early Zion strat neck in NC years ago. It was branded ESP on the heel. Still a nice neck though. I've played a few more recent ones and was never disapointed. Used Zions are generally under valued.

 

[mouzer]

Wow that guitar is slick!

 

[Bo Faulkner]

I have a '96 RT Classic with stunning top and bardens.. custom built for me with some wiring tweaks. The ONLY guitar I would never consider selling. Cant go wrong with them in my opinion. The 50 is a great tele that I would choose over any USA standard tele. The newer ones I have seen since Dale Brown took over are as good or better than the days of old. they have definetly kept up the quality

 

[trisonic]

Originally posted by Denyle_Guitars
I bought a very early Zion strat neck in NC years ago. It was branded ESP on the heel. Still a nice neck though. I've played a few more recent ones and was never disapointed. Used Zions are generally under valued.

Ha, Ha, I expected you to say Godin.................when Hoover was doing that he was issueing specifications.
Even when he was based at Phoenix Drive (I can't remember the downtown address) he had a favourite local neck builder who came in to work on the "bespoke" guitars. Remember that blue job on the cover of Guitar Player in the eighties? Did they give it away?
The most surprising thing about Ken was that he always reminded me of a handsome, NFL Quarterback - not that I know anything about American Football - you know what I mean though?

Best, Pete.

 

[Rock Johnson]

Bob Hartman of the Christian rock band Petra endorsed Zion Guitars for years. You should check out some of their eighties stuff - amazing guitar playing, very tasty.

I don't know if Hartman is still endorsing Zion guitars, or not.

 

[SouthernShred]

Bob Hartman of the Christian rock band Petra endorsed Zion Guitars for years. You should check out some of their eighties stuff - amazing guitar playing, very tasty.

I don't know if Hartman is still endorsing Zion guitars, or not.

You look familiar...do I know you?

Ty Tabor of King's X and Phil Keaggy are famous users. I've played several and they were all very, very well built...I played a few duds in there (not workmanship, just tonal duds) but for the most part, really nice guitars.

 

[Rock Johnson]

You look familiar...do I know you?

Naaaaaaaaaaah.

 

[currypowder]

I think that may have been the one I just sold on ebay. This is it:

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c270/currypowder1/Zion 50/DSC01568.jpg

It sold for just a hair above $700, which was a steal for the buyer (in my opinion). The only reason I sold it was to purchase a different Zion Fifty with a color and neck that I had a much greater desire for:

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c...bums/c270/currypowder1/Zion 50/100_0119_3.jpg

Fortunately, I didn't have to pay much more for the new one, and for me, the upgraded neck was worth the few extra $'s.

I also have a Zion Radicaster that is a few years older, but similar to the new Fifty in color. Over the years I have had 4 different Zions come through my hands.

I have found all of them to be top quality, on par with other high end makers. The necks are especially nice. A little wider and flatter than a typical fender, which I prefer.

Greg

 

[trisonic]

Couldn't see the pics, unfortunately.

Zion was/is the last hold out for the (very) wide, slim necks. He did do other shapes but they were hand carved, custom jobs.

I can't remember the name of my model, it has the 3/4 like Strat shaped body, Barden Standard P'ups, Candy Apple Red by Wayne Garrett (?), Maple neck, Ebony fingerboard. Quite plain really, ultra quiet noise-wise.
Ken also set up my entire collection (at the time) - he was great at that, really.

Best, Pete.

 

[currypowder]

Sorry about the pics. I edited the post so the pictures show up.

Greg

 

[Glowing Tubes]

Looks like you took the pickguard off that one. It really is beautiful!! :AOK
I wouldnt have thought of that combination.

 

[currypowder]

No, the pickguard had just been removed when that picture was taken. It has since been re-installed (a white pearloid). It's in transit now, but here is a picture taken by the seller with the pickguard installed:

I'm usually not a big fan of gold hardware, but, to me anyway, it works on this guitar. Also, the color is translucent, but the grain isn't showing through on the pictures. It's due to arrive on Friday.

Greg

 

[Bo Faulkner]

That is what I call a Hot 50!

 

[EunosFD]

I was browsing through Wolfe Guitars inventory earlier today & noticed they have Phil Keaggy's Zion Premiera for sale. Man what an incredibly gorgeous piece of work:

http://www.gbase.com/Stores/Gear/GearDetails.aspx?Item=780650

 

[Riscchip]

I was browsing through Wolfe Guitars inventory earlier today & noticed they have Phil Keaggy's Zion Premiera for sale. Man what an incredibly gorgeous piece of work:

http://www.gbase.com/Stores/Gear/GearDetails.aspx?Item=780650

Wow, that is pretty sweet looking. Very nice design.