Zoom G3n/G5N platform, tips and tricks

Moe45673

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It is weird. I think most modellers display it like that. Why actual effects go from right to left is pretty obvious (although lefty guitarslingers get screwed :/ )
 
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Folks,

Just a pet peeve but anyway to change the order of effects for Zoom G3Xn?

The order of the display of effects goes from something like:

Wah >> Comp >> Overdrives >>Delay >> Reverbs

Anyway to interchage the signal? Zoom G3 can do it.

I want the display to look like

Reverbs << Delay << Overdrives << Comp << Wah

Is it possible?
No, it's not. In the older G3 you could invert the display, in the N series you don't.
 

mac jones

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Thinking about it, actual pedal boards HAVE to have it go right to left as you plugin from the right. So the MfX plug in from the right, but from there can go either way.

And left to right is likely a tradition that BOSS (or someone) probably started, bless them.

I remember I was really confused about this with the G1on. I couldn't figure out which way it was going because it sounded so God awful I thought it was going backwards. G1on. (not that the G1on is bad sounding.)
 
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DG_Griffin

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I'm looking to move on from the pedal rat race and get an "all in one" solution. I typically play in the worship setting.

I have been gassing for the HX Stomp, maybe keeping a few pedals around for flavor. I am just realizing more and more that regardless of if I use $200 Wampler pedals, or $30 Donner pedals, I still just sound like me. I have an MS50G that I use for Delay & Reverb that I really dig. I'm just wondering if the cost of the HX Stomp vs. the G3Xn or G5n is worth it. I have actually used my G1xon live a few times with pretty good success.

What might I get out of the extra $300-$400 for the HX Stomp that I don't get from the Zoom? That extra coin could easily be put towards another guitar! :JAM
 

mojah

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I'm looking to move on from the pedal rat race and get an "all in one" solution. I typically play in the worship setting.

I have been gassing for the HX Stomp, maybe keeping a few pedals around for flavor. I am just realizing more and more that regardless of if I use $200 Wampler pedals, or $30 Donner pedals, I still just sound like me. I have an MS50G that I use for Delay & Reverb that I really dig. I'm just wondering if the cost of the HX Stomp vs. the G3Xn or G5n is worth it. I have actually used my G1xon live a few times with pretty good success.

What might I get out of the extra $300-$400 for the HX Stomp that I don't get from the Zoom? That extra coin could easily be put towards another guitar! :JAM
I use a G3NX just for FX most of the time now. If you take the time to make sure your levels are matched it works great. My needs are simple Wha Dirt (the violet is my fav, it's really versatile) Choruses Delays Phaser and trem. I do have FRFR patches using the amp sims but it's easier and more tone satisfying for me to lug a small tube amp, either a combo or head and 2X12. I also own a g1on and the g3nx just sounds way richer, more low end and clear top. I never liked Line6 hd fx's except the tube screamer. ymmv
 

valvestate

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Funny my Zoom MS50g chain display goes from right to left, which then feeds into my G5n which goes from left to right. Easy to quickly get used to though.
It is weird. I think most modellers display it like that. Why actual effects go from right to left is pretty obvious (although lefty guitarslingers get screwed :/ )
Yeah I know right. I also have a MS70 and MS50G and the order of effects appears to be normal. :dunno:confused:

Curious if this also the case with more expensive multiFX units like Helix?
 

godoy.rafa

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Bought a Donner DI pedal, to use its analog Cab simulation direct to PA. Someone here tried this and said it was good!
 
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Bought a Donner DI pedal, to use its analog Cab simulation direct to PA. Someone here tried this and said it was good!
I almost got an Aroma DI pedal, which is the same **** for all these chinese brands, how about in terms of fidelity in FOH compared to Zoom or other cabs simulations?
 

Moe45673

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I almost got an Aroma DI pedal, which is the same **** for all these chinese brands, how about in terms of fidelity in FOH compared to Zoom or other cabs simulations?
I own a monoprice DI, which looks identical to these. The cab sim is usable, especially if you're not monitoring yourself from that signal. Unfortunately, the 1/4" output jack also has the cab sim applied to it as well.

The Zoom's Bogner cab is an excellent IR and the one i use. Much better than the Monoprice. The monoprice is, OTOH, much better than the cab sim built into my Boss ME-80
 
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I own a monoprice DI, which looks identical to these. The cab sim is usable, especially if you're not monitoring yourself from that signal. Unfortunately, the 1/4" output jack also has the cab sim applied to it as well.

The Zoom's Bogner cab is an excellent IR and the one i use. Much better than the Monoprice. The monoprice is, OTOH, much better than the cab sim built into my Boss ME-80
For me the Bogner is the better in terms of clarity, most of my clean sounds and some drives too have this cab, otherwise I use the first Marshall 4x12.
 

Dwattitude

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When talking about unity gain, does anyone else find that they have to keep their amp and pedals volume REAAAALLLY low?

For example, here's a simple Vox style patch that I use with my Bullet Mustang, notice the amp volume is on 16...Should I be adjusting the patch volume instead? If not, why would I use the patch volume?

 

Beehive

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When talking about unity gain, does anyone else find that they have to keep their amp and pedals volume REAAAALLLY low?

For example, here's a simple Vox style patch that I use with my Bullet Mustang, notice the amp volume is on 16...Should I be adjusting the patch volume instead? If not, why would I use the patch volume?

I do have to keep amp volumes really low. I think they bake some “power tube distortion” into they’re master volumes which is why I tend to prefer the clarity of low master volume. Also, any time I’ve played a real tube amp I’ve had to keep the master volume around 2-3 out of 10 before it was too loud. So that’s kinda realistic.

The reason I use patch volume is because of perceived volume between patches can be different. It might come out the same on a volume meter, but the ear hears it differently than a volume meter.
 

Playa

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I noticed that low volume issue for drive pedals when they are placed before an amp. I have to set the volume value real low to make all preset sound at the same level on switching a pedal. Bad thing is that pedals don't sound ok at low volumes.

BTW I found that an external cab sim pedal, with an integrated power amp sim (a tube saturator), makes sound my zoom way better than the integrated BGN Cab. Also adding the Exciter Module after an amp in Zoom is a must.
 

Dwattitude

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I noticed that low volume issue for drive pedals when they are placed before an amp. I have to set the volume value real low to make all preset sound at the same level on switching a pedal. Bad thing is that pedals don't sound ok at low volumes.

BTW I found that an external cab sim pedal, with an integrated power amp sim (a tube saturator), makes sound my zoom way better than the integrated BGN Cab. Also adding the Exciter Module after an amp in Zoom is a must.
I've added the Exciter after the amp, but before the cab...Sounds great!
Exactly what is the Exciter???
 

Dwattitude

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I do have to keep amp volumes really low. I think they bake some “power tube distortion” into they’re master volumes which is why I tend to prefer the clarity of low master volume. Also, any time I’ve played a real tube amp I’ve had to keep the master volume around 2-3 out of 10 before it was too loud. So that’s kinda realistic.

The reason I use patch volume is because of perceived volume between patches can be different. It might come out the same on a volume meter, but the ear hears it differently than a volume meter.
That's interesting...Any chance you could share a 'clean' patch as an example?
 
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Hey i just bought a Zoom G3n. I specifically bought it so i could hav effects and play through my headphones. I live in an apartment so i can really only play through my headphones. But it sounds like total **** balls through my headphones. It's super shrill and muddy at the same time. I've tried a few different headphones too. Is there some settings i need to adjust on the zoom? Or did i just waste my money buying this thing?
 




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