I kinda like the way these two cie paint their pedals. Drawings that appeals to the crowd with a honest sound. When it come to desing, the box by itself is important too. I look at Boss effects and specially Jacques and it lack design a big way. Gee, I know it's not that important but when you spend money for a boutique effect it's always nice to have something that has class. Guess i'm still a kid, and glad to be.