ZZ Top: Which albums/cd's were remastered?

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  1. 2HBStrat

    2HBStrat Member

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    Apparently some of ZZ Top's early released were remastered for the ZZ Top's 6-pack and the original masters weren't kept, which means that the early (some say BEST) ZZ Top material will never be available again as it was originally released. Which albums were re-mastered? The first 6?
     
  2. Matt L

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    I have that Six Pack, and it has 6 of the 7 pre-Eliminator albums. Deguello is the only one missing, and I'm not sure why.

    I had Tres Hombres and Fandango on cassette, and I don't remember there being a humongous difference between the cds and tape.
     
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    Deguello is the only one they did not re-master.

    Mike
     
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    The CDs I have heard of the early stuff are not the same albums as were released on vinyl.
    I think there is a CD version of Tres Hombres that wasn't wrecked.
    Fortunately I have been able to round up very good vinyl copies of all of it.
     
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    six pack has the horrible 80's styled gated reverb, etc.
    the chrome smoke & bbq box set is the one to get, sounds more like the originals than six pack.
     
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    Not only that, that site has the whole sordid tale in a few paragraphs of light reading.
     
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    Yes, download those...BIG difference in my opinion.
     
  9. Matt L

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    El Loco, too. Just found that out by reading that link.

    That leaves First Album, Rio Grande Mud and Tejas the only ones that haven't been released in original format on cd.

    Wow, just heard Shaking Your Tree, and the difference is immediately apparant, even without having listened to the remixed versions in a while.
     
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    Yeah, I downloaded the entire catalog of the un-remastered stuff and the difference is quite staggering.

    Mike
     
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    the difference is unbelievable isn't it. I downloaded those about 1 1/2 years ago.
     
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    Wow, I guess I finally have a better idea why folks like them!
     
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    Yeah, me too. Problem was, I had gotten used to the newer versions! I had to re-train my ear for a whole bunch of stuff. Some of those remasters were so criminal, I think BFG did them as a joke.

    Mike
     
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    Not re-mastered.

    Re-mixed, which means the multi-track tapes were used, and augmented with samples and reverb, etc.

    Big difference.
     
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    Not a joke, just a bad infatuation with a device called a "Rockman", invented by Tom Scholz. The tapes were run thru a Rockman for the remastering.

    That "Six Pack" thing was one of the worst musical crimes ever committed.
     
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    The Rockman adds reverb and turns the drums in to sampled drums?!?

    I need one!
     
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    Yes, I've had those vinyl rips for a while. i listen regularly. The remixes make me literally nauseous, as do the Recyler & Eliminator cds.

    I'll never forget the first time i heard the remix of "It's Only Love" - the funky snap had been taken out of Frank's drums and replaced with Phil Collins' cavernous reverb! Suck!

    Billy's assortment of tones were unbelievable on the originals! As appetizing as the gatefold on Tres Hombres.

    [​IMG]
     
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    The worst crime IMHO was how they changed the lyrics to Mexican Blackbird. They actually changed the lyrics. Still can't believe it.

    The kick drum tone on Its Only Love came from the kick mic coming off the stand, and just lying inside the shell. But the tone was so good and unique they left it there on the original.

    Also the guitar amp on the solo for Arrested For Driving While Blind was a solid state Vox that was on the verge of blowing up, and apparently did right after the solo was played. What a unique tone, nothing sounds like that.

    Who in their right mind would remix or re-record stuff that good???
     

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